What an effin mess!

[jamshundred]

Herd names have been a issue for me for 25 years.  Maybe I was one of the first to get "initials"?

PLEASE.   Could American Dexter breeders raise their voices and get this STOPPED.  The entire US herd is being diverted into obscurity and anonymity.   You will NOT find this practice in any other country.  They have the intelligence and imagination to assign their herds memorable and unique names.     Look at the screen shot below.   Remember that breeders are to have UNIQUE herd names, each one seperate and different.    HA! !     In five years, three breeders with the same initials.    PLEASE.   If you have any influence or power with the ADCA "thinking challenged" leadership. . . . . . . . tell them to consider what this shortcut is doing to the identiy of the US herd.   Thank goodness DCS didn't force Mrs. Rutherford to use BMR or something equally as non-descript instead of Woodmagic!
  THREE different breeders within the same decade using the same three initials.     IS NO ONE PAYING ATTENTION?    The ADCA pedigree records are one abysmal MESS!   In a number of ways!    MESS!  MESS!  MESS!

[teatpuller11]

and how about three different versions of the same herd name for one breeder? With computers, the 'sort' brought up three different herds, not one. Lazy. Incompetent.

I'm with you on this one.

[kaldakur]

I'm surprised that people don't want their prefix to be unique, it's free advertising. I know I personally get all the "tree" named farms confused, and they all use similar initials. I'm sure it wasn't intentional on their part, but the result of using initials leaves you wondering (or in my case trying to remember) which one is which.

I also breed Icelandic horses and our registry asks us to use a suffix, as that is what the Icelanders do. The US normally uses farm names for their suffix, but you can use your last name, town, whatever you like. For example, my filly from last year is Elja from Kaldakur. Elja is her name, Kaldakur is my farm name. The US registry will occasionally name one "from NN." NN stands for no name... how annoying. Who was the breeder? Who do I give credit to for the horse? I can easily tell when searching a pedigree or show results who bred what horse by looking at the names.

We chose the Icelandic town name of "Kaldakur" for our farm name/suffix (and prefix for the cattle and Icelandic sheep) because it means "cold field" in Icelandic. We live in a place akin to the tundra, right smack dab in the middle of an ice covered field, in an area where winter starts in October and lasts until June... the name was perfect!

[teatpuller11]

Kaldahur, the herd names are supposed to be unique. Even if just initials. One of Judy's points is that someone isn't paying attention, and should be.

[kaldakur]

Jan 20, 2018 17:49:14 GMT teatpuller11 said:

Kaldahur, the herd names are supposed to be unique. Even if just initials. One of Judy's points is that someone isn't paying attention, and should be.

I was agreeing with her too .  

[genebo]

Judy,

In 2005 I was trying to register a bull that Millie Short bought from me. She wanted to name him Tullamore Dew, which was her father's favorite Irish Whiskey.

I submitted him for registration to the ADCA as Tullamore Dew of Paradise, in accordance with my farm name. It was rejected because it contained too many letters. I was given some alternate names to choose from. Only one kept the full name of the whiskey and the full name of my farm, so he became Paradise Tullamore Dew. He is the only Dexter I ever registered with a different farm name. It was the only way Chuck Daggett, ADCA registrar, would accept it. Even though the ADCA was accepting names much longer before, at the same time, and after. It makes no sense.

Tullamore Dew is a wonderful bull. He has produced 35 offspring so far, and they have populated the nearby area with some wonderful calves, too. None of them have the name "of Paradise" in their pedigree. I meet people all the time that own a Dexter or two that descended from Tullamore Dew that don't know about Paradise Farm. They are shocked to find out that I am the breeder of their ancestor.

That is the only Dexter I bred that did not get my proper farm name, but there are two that erroneously list me as the breeder. October Hope of Paradise was bred by Steve Yerta. He owned the dam at the time of breeding. That was on record, but the ADCA allowed the calf to be registered as if I was the breeder. His next calf he named Paradise Princes Leigh and listed me as the breeder. The sire was a bull that I had sold him. The dam was the same. Steve owned her. Yet once again the ADCA allowed the calf to be registered with me listed as the breeder. Attempts to correct the registration with ADCA failed.

So I have bred 41 Dexters that carry the suffix "of Paradise" and one that carries the prefix "Paradise". I did not breed one Dexter that carries the suffix "of Paradise" nor did I breed the other one that carries the prefix "Paradise". I tried very hard to do it all properly, but the association messed it up.

I would love to have the two breeder errors corrected. However, I wouldn't want to change Paradise Tullamore Dew's name now. He has always had that name for the family that owns him and all of his descendants carry it. It is beyond the time to change it. Dew has an identity of his own.

However, you can see that having my farm and my Dexters readily identified as coming from me is important. I depend upon the quality of my previous Dexters to sell my next generations. I count on the names of my Dexters to tie them to Paradise Farm, so that people can relate them to each other. I think everybody should insist upon doing the same.

Here are some farm names that I like:

Twisted Willow Farm, Virinda Farm, Longevity, Beauchamp Farms, Let Alone Creek Farm, Hylton Holler Farm, Dance N the Morning Dexters, Last Stand Farm Centralia, Hidden Creek Farm, His Pastures, Fisher Bee Farm, Knobley Mountain Dexters, Country Mile Farm, Five Springs Ranch, Fireman's Run Farm, Homeport Acres, Jesse's Hill, Summer Soltice Farms, Spidel Farm, Rancho Relaxo, Someday Maybe Farms, Red Roof Ranch, Morning Star Farm, Long After Farms, Avalon Farm, Sunny Sarasota Dexters and Stahlston Dexters.

These are farms that have or had "of Paradise" Dexters on them. A great bunch of names, suitable for a great bunch of Dexters. Everybody should have a farm name that they can be proud of.

If it's a computer program that is causing the movement to use initials, then the computer program should be changed. I doubt it is the fault of the computer program, because the name "Sweet Home Farm Liberty's Effi" was registered as ADCA 022936, but was later changed to "Sweet Home Liberty's Effi" by taking the word "Farm" out of the name. It is now 24 characters, where it used to be 29 characters long. She still carries her original name in the Legacy registry.

[jamshundred]

I note ADCA is "playing favorites " with the rules and regs again.  I see their regional director for the region which includes CALIFORNIA has a VIRGINIA address.  And I also note, that the herd identifier for his herd has changed for the third time, and animals registered with ADCA, yet also registered elsewhere with original herd name,  have a "new identity".   I seem to recall ADCA enforcing the name issue on preservation breeders.   LOL.    So, some people are forced to comply to rules, and insiders get special consideration it seems?   

Judy