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Post by cascade on Jun 30, 2015 21:55:26 GMT
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Post by jamshundred on Jul 1, 2015 2:00:07 GMT
I think I'd rather a Randall Lineback if I was going for color. I a searching my memory but I don't think that is a an undiluted cow from original bloodlines. I am sure photos I have seen in history books had a somewhat different appearance.
Judy
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Post by cascade on Jul 1, 2015 4:46:08 GMT
All breeds change over time due to genetic drift and also changes in the eye of the breeder and also their environment. Give me ANY "100% Pure" animals of any breed, and I could come back in 50 years with VERY different looking animals. Here's another pic of another Irish Moiled (but I like dexters much better because dexters are more compact) PS. The "Polled Gene" is simply a broken (miss-copied) horn regulator switch... because it's broken, horn growth never starts. It's NOT a magical thing... it's simply a dna copy error, thought to occur in about 1 in every 10,000 sperm cells. Someday, when more is known, we'd be able to look at the billion sperm in a dose of semen from a traditional horned bull, and find thousands of those "polled" sperm with these broken, miss-copied genes. But the chance of them getting to the egg first, is only 1 in 10,000
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Post by lonecowhand on Jul 8, 2015 18:01:35 GMT
If, through recombinant DNA, you spliced that ONE GENE to a Traditional dexter, you would have a hornless Dexter. When you breed,(sexual reproduction) you have a 50/50 chance on everything except the Genus. You will get a bovine...
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Post by cascade on Jul 8, 2015 18:41:31 GMT
ALL Dexters have tons of non-dexters on their not too-distant pedigrees. Give me a list of your Dexters and I'll show you all the non-dexters on their pedigrees.
Nearly 100% of dexter genes come from other breeds of cattle (the rest are mutations from within the breed). All those non-dexter genes selected and sorted via selection and culling over the generations is what makes Dexters "Dexters".
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Post by jamshundred on Jul 9, 2015 1:09:41 GMT
When you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas. Or mongrel mutts.
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Post by lilbitty on Jul 24, 2015 22:11:52 GMT
Kirk, thank you for your continued input regarding Dexter preservation efforts. Please know and understand:
WE GET IT!
You don’t need to continue to tell us all that there are holes in the pedigrees of nearly every Dexter afoot (most of which occurred when the English were more concerned about the potential need to learn German than they were the need to keep up with cow registrations).
WE GET IT!
You don’t need to continue to propose that these holes can mean only one thing in your opinion (that those owners were trying to cover up their cross-breeding efforts). A curious idea since in general, in the UK of that era there was a general acceptance of the practice (as exemplified by the Appendix and Experimental registries.)
WE GET IT!
You don’t need to continue to then conclude for all of us that those animals with documented crossbreeding are just as “Dexter” as those without in your opinion.
WE GET IT!
You don’t need to continue to pretend that Saltaire Platinum and all of his polled descendants look just like every other Dexter. (They DON’T HAVE HORNS… DEXTERS ARE A HORNED BREED!!!!)
We GET IT!
In short, you don’t need to continually demonstrate that you do not support Legacy Dexter or Traditional Dexter breeding efforts in any way shape or form.
WE GET IT!
Now why don’t you start using ALL of the time and energy you devote to harassing our productive efforts for something productive of your own? Is trying to get all of us to realize that you are an opinionated and obstinate ass the highest calling you have? If so, you can stop now:
WE GET IT!
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