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Post by cascade on Jul 16, 2015 5:50:06 GMT
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Post by jamshundred on Jul 16, 2015 16:55:40 GMT
Kirk, if there was a magic wand that entered the data, I would have the good witch waving it with both arms! However, the entries go in one-at-a-time! The years 25,26,27,28,29 need herdbooks to complete. I suspect This is a bull from those years so you might need to be pat until copies can be located or copied.
Judy
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Post by cascade on Jul 16, 2015 17:56:09 GMT
Dora the 6th and her modern imported descendants to America from the UK around 1950 (the modern era) are on a lot of "Legacy" pedigrees. If you haven't yet proven that they are NOT "grade" dexters, how can you claim descendants meet your definition of "Legacy"?
Shouldn't you retract the "Legacy" and "Traditional" qualification on all those dexters with modern UK Grinstead imports that have possible/likely outcrossing... until you can prove it one way of the other?
Do you need to change the Legacy definition to say "May have upgrading via modern UK imports, we just don't know yet"?
What is the latest detail objective definition of "Legacy"?
HISTORY: "Starting in the 1950’s, Mrs. Mabel Ingalls (Clove Brook Herd), Stewart and Frances Kellogg
(Bedford Herd), Edward C. Lord, and Mrs. Margaret Rhodes imported several head of
Dexters from several prominent herds (Grinstead Herd, Atlantic Herd, and Parndon Herd) in
England."
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Post by lakeportfarms on Jul 16, 2015 19:18:43 GMT
What a beautiful Dexter cow! Kirk, thank you for the reminder and illustration of how the Dexter breed, especially with polled lines, has strayed in phenotype from years ago!
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Post by cascade on Jul 19, 2015 0:24:23 GMT
I believe she's a Chondro-dwarf, I've got some non-chondro cows that look like her non-chondro relatives that I've seen hiding in the background of the Grinstead videos.
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Post by genebo on Jul 19, 2015 4:00:50 GMT
I dare you to show us photos of any of YOUR cows that look like that.
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Post by lilbitty on Jul 24, 2015 22:06:54 GMT
Kirk, thank you for your continued input regarding Dexter preservation efforts.
Please know and understand:
WE GET IT!
You don’t need to continue to tell us all that there are holes in the pedigrees of nearly every Dexter afoot (most of which occurred when the English were more concerned about the potential need to learn German than they were the need to keep up with cow registrations).
WE GET IT!
You don’t need to continue to propose that these holes can mean only one thing in your opinion (that those owners were trying to cover up their cross-breeding efforts). A curious idea since in general, in the UK of that era there was a general acceptance of the practice (as exemplified by the Appendix and Experimental registries.)
WE GET IT!
You don’t need to continue to then conclude for all of us that those animals with documented crossbreeding are just as “Dexter” as those without in your opinion.
WE GET IT!
You don’t need to continue to pretend that Saltaire Platinum and all of his polled descendants look just like every other Dexter. (They DON’T HAVE HORNS… DEXTERS ARE A HORNED BREED!!!!)
We GET IT!
In short, you don’t need to continually demonstrate that you do not support Legacy Dexter or Traditional Dexter breeding efforts in any way shape or form.
WE GET IT!
Now why don’t you start using ALL of the time and energy you devote to harassing our productive efforts for something productive of your own? Is trying to get all of us to realize that you are an opinionated and obstinate ass the highest calling you have? If so, you can stop now:
WE GET IT!
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