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Post by genebo on Dec 10, 2015 0:16:25 GMT
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Post by jamshundred on Dec 11, 2015 13:29:23 GMT
Thanks for sharing that Gene! Learn something new everyday. I was surprised to see the cornish hen. Why did I always think cornish he s were white?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 14:37:32 GMT
I believe the popular one is white but that was not the original ones.
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Post by genebo on Dec 11, 2015 15:26:44 GMT
Brenn's semen is stored in the SVF vault, to provide a way to recover lost genes or traits caused by poor breeding decisions. I think that every Legacy bull that has been collected should have his semen stored in the SVF vault for the same purpose.
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Post by genebo on Apr 11, 2016 19:28:33 GMT
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Post by chautauqua on Apr 25, 2016 11:49:09 GMT
At least one, possibly another of the four Bulls I have had collected are stored too at SVF. It's been awhile. We need more genetically horned Bulls stored as numbers drastically decrease, painting ourselves in a corner. Michael Foor-Pessin has a herd sire who should be collected........out of a closed herd going back for years. The catch twenty two is the cost of collection. Kathy Smith has Bulls who qualify too. Easy to say, hard to do with extensive health tests and semen quality tests that have to be clean.
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Post by genebo on Apr 26, 2016 1:36:17 GMT
I was forced to make some choices about collecting Brenn. It was enough just to have him collected for domestic use, only. I had a lot of the tests done before taking Brenn to North American Breeders. NAB was then able to do a one-day collection, saving me boarding fees.
Besides, I didn't want to leave Brenn. Not even for 3 days. I was afraid he would come home changed, somehow. Besides, I would have been extrememly lonely.
Having Brenn collected for export to Canada was the next level up, but I ruled it out because it really ran the cost of testing up and the time he would have to be isolated was too long. Then the cost of having him tested and collected for export to Australia and/or England was so much higher and the isolation times so much longer. That was out of the question.
I once had a Canadian group offer to pay to have Brenn tested and collected again, this time for export to Canada. I still couldn't bear to part with him for the period it would take to perform the tests. I was told it could be up to 6 weeks!
It turned out to be far cheaper to have a bull tested to have himself exported to Canada. That's what we ended up doing.
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Post by genebo on Jun 7, 2016 21:53:51 GMT
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Post by lonecowhand on Jun 8, 2016 17:18:47 GMT
Just a thought, Chautauqua, but maybe some of us crazy preservationists can help bear the expense (though not the anguish of separation) of collection and submission to SVF for some of the known Legacy bulls, like crowdsourcing. I think the Traditional Horned Forum might be able to drum up some interest,and it would be a good work.
Whats the charge for collection by North American Breeders, Gene?
Bill
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Post by wvdexters on Jun 8, 2016 21:59:49 GMT
I would think so too Bill.
It would be wonderful if we could save bulls from a lot of these old lines that are disappearing before they are completely gone. Who knows what my be available 20, 30, 40yrs from now with the direction things are moving.
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Post by genebo on Jun 9, 2016 4:15:12 GMT
Total cost for testing, collecting and storing 336 straws was right at $1000 back in 2006.
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Post by lonecowhand on Jun 14, 2016 23:22:24 GMT
Wow, Gene that's a lot of dough! Now I see why everyone doesn't do it.
I still think that given enough interested folks(and a non-profit mechanism )we could sponsor the preservation of some good genetics that would otherwise be lost.
Bill
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Post by genebo on Jun 14, 2016 23:55:11 GMT
Judy has a good collection of Legacy semen, including some of the best and most famous bulls. She makes sure it will not be wasted on modern cows. She let me have some to AI Eve with, but I haven't used it yet. I borrowed Dunder from her for live cover instead.
If anyone has Legacy cows, they should get in the loop with Judy.
Also, when those cows reach the end of their breeding age, consider having them flushed to prolong their influence on the Dexter herd.
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Post by jamshundred on Jun 15, 2016 0:51:35 GMT
I think Gene has an embryo of Ms Fermoy for sale, don't you?
Judy
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Post by genebo on Jun 15, 2016 3:02:53 GMT
Ms Fermoy's embryo can be bought by the right person, who is committed to reproducing Legacy American red Dexters.
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Post by genebo on Nov 9, 2016 19:53:49 GMT
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Post by genebo on Dec 8, 2016 21:20:33 GMT
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Post by otf on Dec 8, 2016 22:27:09 GMT
Gene, nice article from "The Intern's Perspective." Her experience will certainly influence her future!
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Post by genebo on Dec 9, 2016 16:38:08 GMT
Gale,
I like the whole concept of SWF and all the people I've met from there. You would, too.
The foundation has changed a little bit from when it began, but apparently they are still drawing good people with good intentions.
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Post by lonecowhand on Dec 9, 2016 19:13:25 GMT
I can't imagine what supports a foundation like this, but they must have their donors, 'cause it sure looks like their facility is top cabin. We need something like that out on this Coast. You've given me another something to visit should I get out that way.
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Post by genebo on Dec 9, 2016 22:06:29 GMT
Bill,
Just before the turn of the century a woman of means decided to do somthing that would make a difference to the world. After some searching, she settled on a plan to preserve all the rare livestock breeds of America.
You can read a little of her story here, although it is more the story of the SWF than of her.
svffoundation.org/about/about-swiss-village.html
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Post by lonecowhand on Dec 13, 2016 19:18:02 GMT
Thanks Gene, a very interesting article, and a worthy cause! The foundation is not actually that old then(in my mind!)having only been in operation since 1998.
I guess I'm also glad that all that impressive architecture predated the Foundation, all that would have cost a mint these days, but what a great working environment for those lucky to work there.
Good that there are generous people with vision out there. Also good that Brenn is part of that vision.
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Post by genebo on Feb 24, 2017 2:24:51 GMT
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Post by jamshundred on Feb 28, 2017 4:48:55 GMT
Thanks for posting the newsletter Gene!
I don't know if you still will sell Ms. Fermoy's embryo. . .. but if you sell it soon and someone wants to use a modern Dexter to carry it, ( and they are in the east) I will loan a modern horned cow I have for the implant.
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Post by genebo on Mar 29, 2017 0:51:22 GMT
The latest Swiss Village Foundation newsletter is out. They are seeking a name for their new Randall Lineback calf. Read the article about the calf. Pay attention to what they say about how the Lineback cattle were nearly eliminated by crossbreeding, but a family named Randall kept a closed herd, refused to crossbreed, and saved them. us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=ddb7e6098a756b66a8ae3c6a7&id=1bdb469e2d&e=5ae416b6f1 |
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Post by genebo on May 2, 2017 16:49:55 GMT
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Post by genebo on Jun 2, 2017 20:48:48 GMT
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